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Some meanings of 12, 11, 10, 9 houses
In the context of prison-related issues, the houses of the horary chart have their own specific meanings:
12th house – house of personal Happiness, personal Freedom
and the natural right to personal Freedom given to us from Above, including many accompanying rights that ensure the natural processes of the body’s life (quench thirst and hunger; sleep, rest, etc.).
As an obvious negative and undesirable side of the qualities of this house, perceived negatively from the position of the qualities of other houses - childish naivety, natural passivity and helplessness, impracticality, and to some extent incompetence in matters of practical importance of a material and social nature, which constitute an important and significant part of life any person.
There is enough negativity in the 12th house, so even this listing is already enough, although it is incomplete, to make adequate and impartial judgments about the role of the 12th house in the context of such issues. If a person shows his incompetence and other qualities of the 12th house in relation to the laws of the state, violating them for this reason, then only for juvenile criminals, due to their natural age and mental belonging to the 12th house, the court, taking into account this mitigating circumstance, gives a more lenient sentence. For other age categories of criminals, such mitigating circumstances are not taken into account by the court, with the exception of people with obvious mental disabilities who are related to the 12th house, because The 12th house in this case acts as a state institution of social and medical assistance for people who are unable to fully adapt to society due to disorders of brain activity. Hence the affiliation of such medical institutions as psychiatric hospitals to the 12th house, to which, by the way, the entire system generally belongs public health, implementing the function of social and medical assistance to the population.
Therefore, it is very unwise to place special emphasis only on psychiatric hospitals, in relation to the 12th house, and even more so to hastily judge mental abilities based on the 12th house in the natal chart, because disorders of brain activity often have nothing to do with the 12th house of the horoscope of such a patient. Another reason why these sick people belong to the 12th house is banal and obvious - the natural idleness of their existence.
The motivation for a crime, in addition to naive “ignorance” of the norms of the Law (the most harmless), which is typical for the 12th house, can be the qualities of the 5th house, which push a person to deliberately place himself outside or above the law, deliberately violating it, as well as excessive haste and thoughtlessness in the realization of one’s desire, characteristic of the sign of Aries (first he did it and only then thought), characteristic of the 1st house, and many others related to the rest of the houses of the map. Ideology – 9th house, revenge as “a dish served cold” – 8th house, etc. Often many factors are simultaneously involved, determining the overall picture of the criminal’s motivation.
True, alcohol intoxication and drug intoxication can hardly be considered harmless factors accompanying many crimes, but for the most part the condition itself, caused by such qualities of the 12th house, is only a background against which the negative qualities of other houses are clearly manifested.
The square of the significators of the 1st or 9th house with the significator of the 12th house does not indicate the commission of a crime, because it simply determines the fact of possible arrest and deprivation of Freedom, and the offense itself should be looked for with the involvement of other houses of the map.
9th house
– the house is already responsible for the social rights (house of day or solar Jupiter = Sun + Jupiter) of a person, as a member of society and a citizen of the state, protected and regulated by law, which is related to the 10th house of the map, as the house of Law (house of Saturn). A person defends his social rights (9th house) in court, which is why the court relates directly to the 9th house, where the judge has Jupiter as a natural signifier, which is also the natural significator of the 9th house - the house of Jupiter.
11th house
– the house of self-doubt, as an opposition to the 5th house, which always accompanies various kinds of unexpected events, leading to significant changes in life, which can rightly include imprisonment, which most mercilessly breaks the entire previous way of life. Hence, in the 11th house, there is a need for friends who can support and help in difficult times of self-doubt, in the context of the theme of prison. The 11th house is the house of friends.
If there is a square aspect between the significators of the 12th and 9th houses (both houses are Jupiterian), it is quite appropriate to talk about the conflict of the querent’s conditionally “personal right field” and his social rights in the system of state legal relations, through a trial or through the authority of the “Jupiterian” or “solar” personality. So such a square may indicate an insurmountable conflict of the querent in the so-called “legal field of personal and state interests,” indicating trouble with the Law with the participation of Saturn. This does not necessarily have to be confirmation of the querent’s offense, as stated in the school of S.V. Shestopalov, so there are enough nuances here too, which speaks in favor of, again, an unformalized approach to chart analysis.
Even using the formula “Prison is a punishment for breaking the law (IX # XII)” from the school of S.V. Shestopalov, one should not attribute the meaning of prison to the 12th house, because the insurmountable barrier (square) between prison (12th house) and the social rights of the querent, defended by him in court (9th house), again implies a guaranteed stay out of prison, as in the case of the significator of the 1st house.
The process of imprisonment itself is directly related to the 12th house, which acts as a quesite in these matters, as something desirable for the querent - the preservation of personal Freedom, therefore having a very positive meaning.
Secrets of the 12th house
For what reason, even V. Lilly, already characterizing the 12th house of the natal chart, echoing the primary sources, attributes the following negative meanings to the 12th house:
« Twelfth house
He has the meaning of secret enemies
, witches, cattle such as horses, bulls, elephants, etc.; sadness, grief, imprisonment, all kinds of misfortunes,
self-harm, etc., and such people who maliciously undermine their neighbors or secretly inform against them.
His cosignifiers are Pisces and Venus, Saturn has a lot of joy in this house because Saturn by nature is the author of evil."
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It would seem that in traditional horary astrology the 12th house is presented in an exclusively negative form, almost causing “disgust” with the pile of “horrors” attributed to it, for an elementary reason bringing negative meanings of bad aspects into this house
, resulting in true and positive meaning The 12th house remained a “secret with seven seals.” After all, only the obvious cretinism of such a procedure for forming the meanings of bad houses can explain the reason for the bad reputation of the 12th house in traditional horary astrology.
Another question arises: for what reason is the 12th house also presented in a negative form in natal astrology, similar to its meaning from horary astrology?
Alternative answer: maybe this is a thoughtless translation of the meanings of the 12th house from horary astrology?
Hardly.
No one can be accused of a thoughtless attitude towards astrology, so it is worth looking for another explanation with reliable arguments that will allow you to understand this worthy astrologer and reveal the secret of introducing negative meanings into the 12th house.
The secret of the negative meanings of the 12th house and its bad reputation in natal astrology lies in the following:
If the positive semantic meaning of most other houses for people of past centuries, as well as for our contemporaries, had and has important to achieve success in life and society, the positive meaning of the 12th house, as the house of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, becomes relevant only as a result of fatal events leading to the loss of personal Happiness, and this is grief, misfortune, and the loss of personal Freedom - imprisonment , captivity
The 12th house realizes the natural concepts of simple human Happiness with the natural need for personal Freedom, which all living beings in nature are endowed with in general - the sign of Pisces (Jupiter and Neptune). Therefore, these qualities, inherent in all living beings, are not valued by people until a person one day is deprived of this natural gift, ending up behind bars or being deprived of basic human Happiness for some other reason. This one himself natural gift The 12th house manifests itself in its entirety even in a seemingly poor person, who, like any representative of the animal world, does not require excessive accumulation of material wealth to satisfy his natural needs in life.
All the positives of the true meaning of the 12th house for people, as members of society, are devalued only by the fact that the vast majority of members of society initially already possess all the gifts and benefits of the 12th house, therefore the relevance, as vital importance, of this positive topic in people’s lives is reduced for the most part to to a minimum, perceived by them as something everyday and familiar, as a result of the natural inclusion of this house in the sequence of changes in work and leisure, everyday worries and idleness (carelessness) against the background of relative personal well-being.
Even health, as an integral part of simple human personal Happiness, being directly related to the 12th house, is perceived by most people as something natural and everyday, and therefore is not appreciated by them to the proper extent until they are deprived of it. A similar attitude applies to personal Happiness and personal Freedom.
Astrology largely reflects the needs and capabilities of people in realizing their desires, where the main mechanism for this is the 1st house, which is actively engaged in making desires come true, personifying the native (querent) primarily in horary astrology. The natural background against which events develop with active participation 1st house is related to the 12th house, so as long as everything in the 12th house is in order, and it does not distract attention, working in the background (Neptune) mode, its relevance for a person is devalued - “ I don’t value what I have, but if I lose it, I cry
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The world of “some kind of” spiritual quest for the majority of humanity, busy with earthly concerns, is generally devalued, therefore, even in these matters, the role of the 12th house is often presented in a negative light of condemnation.
The 12th house “turns on” consciously in full force very “easily”, it is enough to “spit” on all worldly affairs and now you are already on the “sidelines” of life in the social sense of the word, which rushes past you at the speed of an express train. If you look from a slightly different angle from the “sidelines” of life at the “courier train” rushing past you, then it can also be compared with the image of a “well-trodden rut” along which the bulk of humanity follows their instincts, like a monolithic herd of animals moving along one a path, for example, to a watering hole. Already from this angle, the perception of the “sidelines” of life acquires a slightly different semantic meaning, far from its original negative.
The eternal question about the meaning of life never finds a universal and unique answer, following in its search through the vicious circle (of animals) of the Zodiac.
The actions of the Creator are worthy of surprise!
Our hearts are filled with bitterness:
We leave this world without knowing
No beginning, no meaning, no end.
Omar Khayyam
Idleness, idleness, contemplation are the lot of the “lucky” ones, for whom the pursuit of excess material “benefits” of life is no longer relevant to the extent of spending too much of their time on it, allowing them to free themselves from this burden for spiritual matters or for personal creativity, etc. .p. Only these “lucky ones” can fully appreciate the high significance of the gifts of the 12th house; for the rest of humanity, the 12th house is most naturally included in the sequence of their everyday life, and therefore does not represent something valuable for the time being.
That's when it comes a time associated with the acute urgency of the loss of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, then the significance of the 12th house becomes a priority for the life of any person, that's why they're like that negative events, associated with the loss of natural gifts of the 12th house, is reflected in astrology through the erroneous identification of them with the 12th house.
As a result, we have what we have in the traditional interpretation of the 12th house:
deprivation of personal freedom - imprisonment,
loss of personal Happiness - grief, misfortune,
and without mentioning in the text the interpretation of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, As a result, the bottom line is that we only get the negative – imprisonment, grief, misfortune.
Thus, the negative meaning of the 12th house, traditional for natal astrology, is a consequence of the universal human attitude towards that natural state of personal Happiness and personal Freedom for any person, which is expressed by the phrase: “What I have I don’t value; when I lose it, I cry” , demonstrating an example of universal human ingratitude towards the gifts of the 12th house.
The true and positive meaning of the 12th house, due to its general accessibility even for the poor, does not motivate people to even greater achievements in this field, because the existing natural ceiling in satisfying natural material needs in the 12th house is significantly lower than any already socially significant needs of people, the satisfaction of which is occupied by the 1st house, including the rest of the houses. For example, you can get quite diverse and healthy eating for some minimum reasonable amount of money, satisfying the natural feeling of hunger, which is the minimum threshold of material well-being corresponding to personal Happiness in the 12th house. At the same time, this minimally reasonable threshold for food consumption is the key to health, both physical and spiritual, as evidenced by the practice of monks and the advice of nutritionists for the laity.
The 12th house most naturally determines a person’s material needs at the level necessary to satisfy the elementary processes of the body’s vital activity, therefore long-term personal Happiness in the 12th house is achievable for the vast majority of people leading healthy image life, which does not require significant efforts of the 1st house to achieve it.
Here is a picture of Happiness (Jupiter) in a social environment, and even in the 9th house can become an unattainable goal, in pursuit of which all other houses and especially the 1st house will be mobilized, which turns a person into a slave of these socially significant and always illusory but desired values for him 9 houses, which are external attributes of social Happiness.
The 1st house “does not have an aspect” to the 12th house precisely because the natural level of a person’s needs in the 12th house, as a rule, has already been achieved, without the need for its further increase, if this does not concern spiritual matters, etc., for whose qualities of the 1st house are no longer relevant.
When, due to the habit inherent in people of not appreciating the natural gifts of the 12th house, they already have to mourn the loss of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, “being left with nothing,” arriving in grief and sadness, then the theme of the 12th house “rises to its full height,” attracting attention to itself , which is stated by traditional astrology “according to the residual principle.”
Consequently, for reasons quite natural for human nature (“what I have I do not value”), the role of the 12th house in astrology becomes relevant and desirable - a quesit for the querent (native), when he loses the previously available and familiar gifts of the 12th house (personal Freedom and personal Happiness ), “mourning” them – “I cry when I lose it”
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The inability to appreciate personal Happiness and personal Freedom, as gifts of the 12th house, is characteristic of the vast majority of humanity, carried away by the pursuit of the always illusory image of social happiness. Traditional astrology tends to express to an even greater extent the universal human ingratitude towards the gifts of the 12th house, evaluating them from the perspective of stereotypes of social happiness and success in society, expressed in the material attributes of social happiness.
The gifts of the 12th house are not only the background against which a person realizes his social aspirations in pursuit of social stereotypes of happiness, but in fact the gifts of the 12th house, like the 12th house itself, are a kind of foundation on which the “building” of social well-being is subsequently erected and happiness. As we see, the collapse of the fundamental foundations of general social happiness is associated with the collapse of personal Happiness and the deprivation of personal Freedom in the 12th house, bringing grief and unhappiness, which is not even saved by the high level of previously achieved social success.
Astrologers of the level of V. Lilly absolutely fairly and with understanding of the matter made their judgments in horary questions about imprisonment, grief and misfortune in the 12th house, without even attributing these meanings to the 12th house, but simply indicating the special role of this house in issues related to this topic that require their own understanding. Quote: "concerning the twelfth house and the matters which accordingly relate to it, namely, imprisonment,..."
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V. Lilly emphasized the important role of the 12th house in horary astrology in matters related to troubles in the life of the querent in the presence of a bad aspect between the rulers of the 1st and 12th houses, which is absolutely true, however, he did not stoop to the primitive identification of prison with the 12th house, which is universal tolerated by modern pseudo-custodians of tradition.
The only example of using the significator of the 12th house to designate a prisoner who escaped from prison indicates that V. Lilly, in fact, in his answer, designated with this significator a person free from prison at the time the question was asked!
In natal astrology, describing the 12th house, V. Lilly simply continued to focus the readers’ attention on the importance of the 12th house in matters related to dramatic events in people’s lives, along with other indications of this in the horoscope, not related to the 12th house, again without omitting to the low level of primitivism in astrology, which occurs among modern pseudo-guardians of tradition, placing all responsibility on the 12th house. It is not for nothing that V. Lilly repeatedly drew the attention of his readers to the importance of a correct understanding of astrology, which in modern astrology “you won’t find it during the day”
, thanks to the general profanation of many of its concepts for modern traditional astrology.
Phrase: “Saturn has much joy in this house, for Saturn is by nature the author of evil.”
, wandering from one “primary source” to another, repeating itself many times, is largely true, but in fact it has a slightly different semantic meaning, lost as a result of the profanation of astrology.
The true meaning of the phrase "Saturn has a lot of joy in the 12th house"
contains a much deeper and positive meaning associated with the universally recognized significance of Saturn as a significator of old age, denoting old people, including wise ones, who, at the end of their lives, for completely natural reasons, retire from worldly affairs, going to peace and rest, which We all owe it to the 12th house.
If in early childhood the 12th house, like the 4th house, is the natural habitat of young children who, due to their youth, are not overloaded with various kinds of work (10th house) and personal concerns (6th house) in society, then at the end of active work , as a result of the natural aging of the body, old people, moving away from business, return to the origins of their idle pastime in the 12th house.
At the same time, Saturn, no doubt, rejoicing in the 12th house, is already fully occupied with the implementation of new things for himself social functions in the 12th house - care and concern for your grandchildren and great-grandchildren (joyful chores).
Saturn in the guise of elderly and senile people, being their natural significator, really rejoices in the 12th house, freed from many worldly worries and matters of a social nature (work, service), finding peace and the opportunity to finally take care of their personal Happiness, which has always been make sacrifices earlier, realizing their social ambitions. We find confirmation of this in the situation of pensioners in developed countries with a social orientation towards the well-being of all citizens, and not its individual categories. Pensioners from many countries have the opportunity to travel around the world, for example, the USA, Japan, some European countries, etc., and a decent pension allows them to finally realize some of their long-standing dreams, to devote themselves entirely to their favorite pastime, hobby, like the themes of the 12th house . So old age, whose significator is Saturn, really rejoices in the 12th house...
The final “horror story” of this phrase is about the evil Saturn, who "by nature he is the author of evil"
, rather biasedly reflects the meaning of Saturn, which also has another meaning - wisdom, etc., which is confirmed by the very high reputation in astrology of the 10th house of the horoscope with its natural signifier Saturn.
These pseudo-guardians of tradition even managed to give the highest point of the horoscope Ms the meaning of the cusp of the 10th house, thereby elevating the symbolic ruler of the 10th house Saturn to Ms, which in fact should give Saturn even an excessive positive meaning, contradicting the statement: "... is the author of evil"
. Therefore, the semantic content of this “horror story” is a simple continuation and addition to the traditional frightening interpretation of the “bad” 12th house from the pseudo-guardians of traditional astrology, who did not have enough intelligence and common sense to understand the true meaning of the 12th house in Astrology.
Is astrology an empirical science?
Phrase: “Saturn has a lot of joy in the 12th house...”
, in modern astrology, mindlessly copied from text to text in a distorted semantic meaning, however, like the 12th house itself, which serves as confirmation of the profanation and degradation of astrological knowledge, which was given to people from above, and is not empirical knowledge, as many quoted modern astrologers like to declare. For example, E. Lewis writes: “Horar, like all astrology, is an empirical science”
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These pseudo-guardians of tradition, who distorted astrology with their misunderstanding, naively and self-confidently believe that from generation to generation, grain by grain, they collected together scattered knowledge and formed a system of knowledge that all embraces the existence of life on Earth.
Astrology really now represents something eclectically empirical, because... the term empiricism means: "1. A philosophical direction that recognizes sensory perception and experience as the only source of knowledge, underestimating the importance of concepts and theoretical generalizations in the study of individual facts and phenomena. 2. Research method based on a description of facts, without subsequent conclusions and theoretical generalizations" (4).
Only narrow-minded people can state that astrology as a whole, as a system of knowledge, is an empirical science that arose and relies in its development only on personal experience astrologers, who, like “blind moles,” rely only on their senses and personal experience in perceiving the world, thereby implementing an empirical approach to understanding the world. And especially with such an approach to astrology, the very possibility of this “herd of blind moles” to even reach the level of knowledge in astrology that we have now seems simply unnatural and incredible. It is precisely this approach to astrology that can only explain the profanation of many concepts in modern astrology.
A different picture of the emergence of astrology as an integral system of knowledge looks much more realistic, which is confirmed in Greek mythology, according to which much knowledge was given to people from Above, and even greek mythology its content resembles a manual on studying the basics of astrology. Despite its mythological basis, it exclusively correctly conveys the meaning and meaning of the basic concepts in astrology.
Losing this priceless gift of the gods was just beyond the reach of people, taking into account the personal subjectivity of any person’s perception. Moreover, Chiron, as an expert in medicine and other arts, gave his knowledge to far from simple mortals, so through what “hands” distorting the essence of the art of astrology it passed through the millennia, one can only guess.
The merit of the ancient and medieval classics of astrology is their attempt to preserve the remnants of knowledge on astrology, lost over the centuries, which reached them in a somewhat distorted form, thanks to the introduction into astrology of its subjective perception by the bearers of this knowledge - many generations of astrologers.
Adaptation of astrological knowledge to modern conditions can really serve as an example of an empirical approach to astrology, although a completely appropriate analogy with chemistry, which was also an empirical science, made its discoveries “blindly and by touch” by chemists by coincidence of random circumstances.
Only after the discovery of the law of periodicity chemical elements D.I. Mendeleev, by the way, made it in a dream, which we owe to the 12th house, chemistry acquired a theoretical basis that opens up the possibility of searching for new chemical elements, knowing their properties, ceasing to be empirical.
Therefore, an empirical approach to the development of any science is characteristic of its initial stage development (blindly and by touch), usually culminating in some fundamental discovery, as in chemistry.
The statement by leading modern astrologers of the fact that astrology is “empirical” confirms its very low level of development, which is absolutely consistent with the methodology for interpreting the meanings of bad houses in modern traditional astrology, including the introduction of meanings into the 12th house that are diametrically opposed to its original and true meanings.
We owe the empirical approach in the development of modern traditional astrology to an elementary lack of understanding of the fundamentals of Astrology.
I would like to hope that astrology will finally cease to be empirical, showing us the obvious methodological stupidity in interpreting the meanings of houses and many other concepts.
If any of the venerable masters of traditional astrology believe that I have poured a bucket of “dirt” on traditional astrology, laying false accusations against it, accusing, to put it mildly, of the stupidity of modern bearers of this knowledge, because through their efforts, astrology has been elevated almost to the rank of Science, then let me ask why, with such a high “scientific potential” of it, as declared by many astrologers, the results of, say, horoscope rectification from a dozen average professional astrologers will differ so much that this is more resembles the activities of amateurs, like “blind moles”, and not professionals?
By the way, for very big tycoons, billionaires, the formula is almost the same, with a small addition: II + V + VIII + XI + X. Billionaires are not just lucky with big money, this is their social calling, the purpose of life, the essence of their career.
Let's return to our lucky guy. And here the question arises: what kind of situation is this, progressive or transit? Probably, as a background, there should be some kind of progression, but given that luck in the game is an external event, and not an internal motivation (everyone wants to win, but who wins? There is little internal motivation), we must admit that this, rather, transits. Moreover, the state of the subject (the mood for the game) on a particular day plays a big role. There is one more consideration, progressions leave a mark for life, their impact changes the subject’s lifestyle, and then, well, he won $10,000, so what? He soon spent it, nothing fundamentally changed in his life. Now, if he won a million dollars, then his life would become different, his lifestyle, environment, etc. would change. Very big win- these are, of course, progressions.
Well, we are going according to plan, first we will look at the slow progression on September 16, 1997. Of course, we take a local card.
Progressive
elements
Local
elements
Let's look at aspects with an orb of 1°.
1) Venus progressed 30° with local Mercury. The aspect is converging. (3, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 5, 6) + (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10). Three times V + VIII (play for big money), twice V + XI and one VIII + XI.
2) Mercury progressed 60° with Pluto. (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10) + (2, 3, 8, 4, 5, 9). Three times V + VIII, twice II + V and one II + VIII.
3) Mercury progressed in the VIII house of the locale. Again, many connections on the topic. Moreover, since connections with the VIII house are not very good, it turns out quite interesting description: first “ran aground”, and therefore was forced (compulsion - characteristic feature tense aspects) play.
3) Progressed Pluto conjunct natal Pluto. Here are II, V, and VIII.
4) The cusp of the V house is progressed 30° to Venus and Mercury in the locale. (3, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 5, 6) + 5 and (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10) + 5. Twice V + VIII and one V+XI.
As you can see, mostly V + VIII (big win) goes.
Now let's look at the transits at 0 hours 09/16/1997 GMT.
Transit
elements
Local
elements
The first aspect that catches your eye: 1) Transit Mercury in conjunction with local Pluto. (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10) with (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9). The aspect is converging, almost exact - the events took place after midnight on the night of September 15-16.
2) Venus transiting 60° with local Pluto. (3, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 5, 6) + (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9). The aspect is convergent, precise (within 1°).
These two exact aspects determine the date of the event, which occurs against the background of other transit aspects, not so precise, but quite valid.
3) Pluto transits 60° with Saturn and Jupiter. (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9) + (1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 12) and (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9) + (1, 3, 10 , 11, 12). Moreover, the aspect is converging with Jupiter (lucky, lucky!).
Here, by the way, is another example from my practice. For one of my friends, transit Pluto harmoniously aspected natal Jupiter. This year, she inherited from a neighbor (who died of cancer) a room in a communal apartment in the old building, for which she subsequently received $6,000.
Question: and if a person, on the contrary, has large monetary losses, for example, robbery, then the formula is the same, but with minuses?
Answer: Well, let's voice the robbery formula. Let's start with the formula for danger to life: X|I-VIII. This is a serious injury, mutilation, surgery (amputation, they will cut out something, a kidney, for example), and death. If X|I-VIII-XI|Uranus, then this is suicide. If X|I-VIII-VII, then this is an opportunity to become a victim of another person or cause the death of another person, for example, a car accident, two cars collided, there are victims, one driver is the cause, the other is the victim, and this formula works for both . If X|I-VIII-VII-XI, then this is a clearly conscious murder (XI is the house of deliberate, one might say, planned, hatched actions), or a person is deliberately killed or he himself kills someone (a professional killer, for example).
Now the danger to property: II - VIII, this is any material damage. If II-VIII-XI, then this is material damage with an emergency connotation (XI house - unexpectedly, suddenly a pipe burst, etc.). If II-VIII-XI-XII, then this is theft or the person himself is a thief (XI - deliberate actions, XII - secret, hidden harm, a wallet was pulled out of your pocket unnoticed). The robbery happens, as they say, before your eyes, i.e. you are personally “present” at this, it must be the I or X house, i.e. robbery formula: I|X-II-VIII-XI, there is danger to life (and they can be stabbed with a knife), material damage, and deliberate actions (XI house). And if I|X-II-VIII-VII-XI, it means they attacked, robbed, killed, or the subject himself is a raider and bandit. If II-IV-VIII-XI-XII, then this is theft of an apartment.
Question: what if IV-VIII-XI-XII?
Answer: it turns out that the apartment itself was “stolen”, and not the things from it (there is no second house). Well, maybe the person ran into real estate swindlers, or one himself.
Predictive astrology.
PRACTICUM.
Example 8. Arrest and prison.
The man was born on December 8, 1967 at 11 a.m. (local time), Engels (Saratov region). Date of registration of the first marriage - June 2, 1990, Engels. The trial took place on December 27, 1993, at the same place. The sentence read: “To impose a sentence of imprisonment for a period of three years.”
Apparently, he committed the crime before, so some progressive aspects must be divergent.
Question: if I prayed to God, can I cancel the progression?
Answer: A miracle is always possible. I had such cases, very bad transits, terrible progressions. The man prayed to God - he was taken out, carried past. By the way, what is the difference between black magic and white magic? Black magic affects a person only during bad progressions, while white magic always works. In this sense, I generally doubt that black magic exists. Here I have one friend: “Look, they’ve jinxed me, they’ve cast a spell on me!” I look at progressions and transits and see that there is no need to “stare” there, everything is bad enough, without magic. But the opposite situation, when everything is bad in the horoscope, but a person prays and is saved, is possible, I have observed such cases.
If good progressions are formed to a natal planet that is weak in sign and has only tense aspects, then you can’t expect much profit, well, something will happen, but it’s not a fountain. Here I had a case, one of my clients organized the visit of Vanessa Mae, at the same time he had good progressions to Saturn, and in the natal he was weak in sign, poorly aspected. That’s what I told him: “don’t expect much profit.” And so it happened, the ends met and that’s it. There were no losses, but little income either. Those. The natal status of the planet by position and aspects must also be taken into account.
Well, okay, let's look at the natal chart (Fig. 36). After clarifying the date of the first marriage, the time turned out to be 10 o'clock. 44 min. 30 sec.
Rice. 36
Now let's find out what prison gives us. Since ancient times in astrology, the combination of the IX and XII houses has been considered as “court” and “prison”. Justice is also traditionally associated with the planet Jupiter, i.e. it can be considered a significator of judgment. Arrest is associated with the VIII house (forcible detention using force). Those. formula for arrest and prison VIII-IX|Jupiter-XII (detained, convicted, imprisoned). If only IX-XII, then it could simply be an accusation, slander, forced flight, emigration, deportation, expulsion from the country. Although, of course, it happens that a person escapes from prison.
The Hamburg School of Astrology is famous for its unique methods that make it possible to make accurate predictions, and interest in it is growing every year. However, there is still not enough Russian-language literature on this topic: now there are only three books (Maria Kay Simms “Astrological Detective. Investigations using the 90-degree scale”, Konstantin Arev “Composite Chart” and Denis Kutalev “Transneptunes in Uranian Astrology”) and two seminars on DVD ("Unaccounted for the possibilities of the Hamburg school" by Arev and "Introduction to Uranian astrology" by Kutalev). Articles by the recognized master of Uranian astrology, Konstantin Arev, will allow readers to get to know this amazing school better and get to know its powerful tools in practice.
In this short note, I will try to introduce you to the most common formulas of the Hamburg School of Astrology, with the help of which it is possible to predict such unpleasant events as arrests, imprisonment, exile and escape.
The most common combination of planets that leads to such tragic consequences is the relationship between Saturn and Hades. Agree that imprisonment in itself is a rather sad restriction. The prison itself can be called one of those phenomena through which there is an attempt to limit crime. And if you think about it, the above definitions are precisely the final result of the combination of Saturn and Hades. Sadness (Hades) + Limitations (Saturn). Restriction (Saturn) + Crime (Hades).
If we add the Sun, which in Hamburg astrology is an indicator of the physical body, to the combination of Saturn and Hades, we get the formula SA+HA-SU, which is responsible for the physical limitation of criminals. The same formula is traditionally attributed to participation in events such as links.
Also, often, in these sad matters, two formulas come to the fore, the basis for which is the combination Lunar Node and Kronos. Essentially, the NO+KR planetary relationship indicates connection or contact with law and/or officials. If we add Saturn (restrictions and difficulties) to the above planetary configuration, we get another formula for imprisonment, because, in this case, it is very similar to the restrictions received during contact with the law and/or people representing the law.
And finally, the last of the most common formulas looks like a combination of the Lunar Node, Kronos and Mars, which may indicate arrest. In this case, the native, through his own actions (Mars), can come into contact with the law and authorities (Lunar Node + Kronos).
So, let's write out these formulas and try to very briefly check their performance.
- SA+HA
- SA + HA - SU or SU + HA - SA
- NO + KR - MA
- NO + KR - SA
Well, now let's start checking...
February 10, 1897, V.I. Lenin is sentenced to exile in Siberia.
Having found the sensitive point SU+HA-SA (Link) in Lenin’s natal chart, we will see how transit Saturn passed along the axis of this formula, and the directional planetary sum SU+HA entered the orb of influence to the axis of natal Saturn. The link formula was implemented twice... I will add that at this time, the transit midpoint of SA/HA was on the axis of the natal half-sum of SA/HA.
2 May 1536, the English king Henry VIII gave the order to imprison his wife, Anne Boleyn, in the Tower.
Henry VIII's second wife was born on May 5, 1507, at 11:31 GMT, in London. The reliability rating of the date of birth is "XX", that is, we can say that the time of birth is completely unknown. But regardless of knowledge of the time of birth of Anne Boleyn, during this period the transit midpoint SA/HA passed along the axis of her natal Saturn, which indicates arrest and imprisonment.
But the relationship between Saturn and Hades is not only arrest and prison. This planetary relationship also means an attempt to rid oneself of such manifestations, for example, through escape. We can consider one historical example.
2 May 1568, the Scottish Queen Mary Stuart made a successful attempt to escape from the island of Loch Leven, where she was being held prisoner by the British.
Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots, was born on December 18, 1542, at 13:12 local time (LMT -00:14:00. Linlithgow, Scotland). Reliability rating "AA".
In this situation we can also see the transit midpoint SA/HA on the natal Hades axis, but since by this time the native has already been arrested, this planetary picture may mean flight.
May 5, 1849, Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky, together with other Petrashevites, was arrested following a denunciation.
Fyodor Mikhailovich was born on November 11, 1821, in Moscow. Time of birth unknown. According to the Russian astrologer B.Z. Izratel, the time of birth is 11:14 GMT.
At the time of the arrest, directional Saturn was on the natal midpoint SA/HA axis, and transiting Saturn was in a semi-cross to this natal midpoint. At the same time, along the axis of natal Saturn and Hades, the transit midpoint SA/HA passed.
May 10, 1848, Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov leaves the capital for exile in Vyatka. A few days earlier he was arrested.
Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov was born on January 26, 1826 in the village of Spas-Ugol (now Kalyazinsky district of the Tver region). Time of birth unknown. Russian astrologer B.Z. Izraitel, after the rectification he carried out, sets the time of birth to 23:07 GMT.
This entire period of time from arrest to exile, transiting Saturn in cross to natal Hades, and the resulting planetary picture SA=HA, is a formula for arrest, trouble and isolation.
May 10, 1929, the future leader of North Korea, Kim Il Sung, was imprisoned for political reasons.
Kim Il Sung was born on April 15, 1912, near Pyongyang. Time of birth unknown.
The transit midpoint SA/HA entered the orb of influence towards the axis of the natal Saturn, which implemented the formula for arrest and prison. There is also a formula for arrest and imprisonment, which is written like this: NO+KR-SA. If we find the axis of this natal sensitive point NO+KR-SA, we will see how at that time the director Kronos was passing there, which helped to implement the formula of arrest and imprisonment.
May 11, 1915, the Russian general Lavr Georgievich Kornilov had to surrender to the Austrians.
Lavr Georgievich was born on August 30, 1870, in what is now the modern city of Karkaralinsk, Karaganda region of Kazakhstan. Time of birth unknown.
If you look carefully at the general’s cosmogram, you can identify the following position: transit Saturn was exactly on the axis of the natal sensitive point NO+KR-SA, which means the formula for arrest and prison was realized. But on the axis of the natal sensitive point NO+KR-MA (this formula also reads as arrest and imprisonment), the directional Zeus came, which looks extremely symbolic. After all, Zeus patronizes the military, and Kornilov is precisely a military man. In addition, Kornilov was not just a prisoner, but a prisoner of war. But the transit sensitive point NO+KR-SA was in opposition to the natal Zeus of the general, which can also determine arrest in war or captivity.
March 4, 1837, poet Mikhail Yuryevich Lermontov was arrested for the poem “The Death of a Poet.”
Mikhail Yuryevich was born on October 15, 1814, in Moscow. Time of birth unknown.
During this unpleasant event in Lermontov's life, transiting Saturn passed through his natal Saturn and Hades, which realized the formula of prison and arrest. At the same time, the transit sensitive point NO+KR-SA passed along the axis of the natal Lunar Node, which implemented the formula for being under arrest (NO+KR=SA+NO).
And exactly 111 years later, March 4, 1848, a certain Karl Marx is arrested by the Brussels police and expelled from Belgium.
Karl Marx was born on May 5, 1818, at 02:00 LMT (GMT -00:27:00. Trier, Germany). The reliability rating of the date of birth is “AA”.
And for Karl Marx, during his arrest, transit Saturn was passing along the axis of natal Saturn and Hades, which also realized the formula of prison and arrest.
13 February 1633, the Inquisition in Rome arrests astronomer Galileo Galilei.
On this day, along the axis of natal Mars in Galileo’s chart, the transit sensitive point NO+KR-MA passed, which indicates the arrest of a person. But this transit planetary picture, nevertheless, has quite fast speed, in order to make a judgment using it. Therefore, we will need more "robust" planetary evidence of arrest. For example. There is another formula - NO+KR-SA. And just at the moment of arrest, the NO/KR midpoint passed along the axis of natal Saturn, which implemented the arrest formula. There is another indication of arrest. Here's another formula: SA+HA-SU. If we find the axis of such a natal sensitive point in Galileo’s chart, we will be convinced that this planetary structure is on the axis of natal Saturn, which already from the birth of Galileo implements the formula (SA+HA=SU+SA). But during the arrest, transit Hades (SA=HA) passed along the axis of this natal sensitive point, which twice realized the arrest. Firstly, as the closing formula of the sensitive point SA+HA-SU. And the simple relationship between Saturn and Hades indicates the possibility of imprisonment.
February 25, 1713, The Turkish Sultan captures the Swedish king Charles XII.
Charles XII was born on June 27, 1682, in Stockholm, at 06:45 LMT (GMT -01:12:00). The reliability rating of the date of birth is “B”.
During the capture of the king, transit Hades (SA=HA - “Prison. Isolation”) passed along the axis of his natal Saturn. At the same time, along the axis of the natal midpoint SA/HA, both directional and transit Saturn were simultaneously passing, which also realized the formula of prison and isolation. But along the axis of natal Hades there was a directional midpoint SA/HA. In general, everywhere you look there is a prison. Transiting Zeus passed along the natal midpoint MO/HA axis, which created a planetary picture responsible for prisoners of war. The directional planetary sum NO+KR and the transit midpoint NO/KR came to the axis of natal Mars, and such planetary patterns indicate arrest. Transiting Saturn was passing on the axis of the natal sensitive point NO+KR-SA (“Staying under arrest”).
A very similar situation happened with Alexei Petrovich Bestuzhev-Ryumin. February 25, 1758, arrested the Russian Chancellor, head of the College of Foreign Affairs A. Bestuzhev-Ryumin.
Alexey Petrovich was born on June 1 (May 22), 1693, in Moscow. Time of birth unknown.
During the arrest, transiting Hades conjoined the natal midpoint axis SA/HA (“Prison. Isolation”). And at the same time, the transit midpoint SA/HA passed along the axis of natal Saturn. The directional sensitive point NO+KR-SA passed along the axis of the natal Lunar Node, which implemented the formula for being under arrest.
February 26, 1924, Adolf Hitler is sentenced to five years in prison for the Beer Hall Putsch.
Amazingly, at this time, on the natal midpoint axis SA/HA (“Prison. Isolation”), the directional and transit midpoints SA/HA came simultaneously and very accurately, which realized the prison formula. The transit sensitive point NO+KR-MA arrived on the axis of natal Mars, and the formula for arrest and prison was realized (NO+KR=MA+MA).
February 27, 1937, the plenum of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks expels Nikolai Bukharin from the party, after which he is arrested.
Transiting Hades was located exactly on the axis of natal Saturn and such a planetary picture speaks of arrest and prison, and this despite the fact that transit Saturn passed along the axis of natal Hades, and directional Saturn was on the axis of the natal midpoint SA/HA. And the directional sensitive point NO+KR-SA passed along the axis of natal Saturn, which made it possible to implement the arrest formula (NO+KR-SA=SA).
Alexander
Here are the details of the person sentenced to 3 years. The man was born on December 8, 1967 at 10:44:30 am (local time), Engels (Saratov region). The trial took place on December 27, 1993. The formula for arrest and prison looks like this, VIII-IX|Jupiter-XII where, the combination of the IX and XII houses is considered as “court” and “prison”. Justice is also traditionally associated with the planet Jupiter, i.e. it can be considered a significator of judgment. The arrest is associated with the VIII house.
Alexander
Yes, I forgot the connection between houses should be tense.
Zhukovich
Alexander, thank you!
Tatiana
My son has a large 12th house (of three signs). Venus is again in the 12th house in Gemini. Mercury is the same in the 12th house in Gemini. I don’t like this 12th house, but what should I do?
Zhukovich
Tatyana, let him go far from home to live, then home will be realized as emigration. Otherwise, at the place of birth, you will suffer a lot, hide everything from others, and have constant secret love relationships.
Zhukovich
Tatyana, I have a colleague who has 5 planets in the 12th house in Libra, he first worked as a translator at home, then went to another country, went to college there (at a fairly late age), and already knows 4 languages.
Tatiana
Thank you Natalya! My son is leaving for the army on December 12th. He says that later he wants to at least stay to serve under a contract, in general he doesn’t want to return home to Novosibirsk. That’s even better.
Zhukovich
The theme of the 12th house is the search for the meaning of life, finding your way and finding personal communication with the Lord, with the Absolute. Most often, people try to get away from their usual things, away from home, away from their parents, and wander around the world. They join all kinds of religious and spiritual movements (sects, groups). In Indian astrology, the 12th house is the house of moksha - the house of liberation. This “liberation” includes many concepts, i.e. a person wants to free himself from the shackles of the material world; he is more attracted to everything spiritual. By the way, this position shows a rather old and mature woman. your son's soul. I wish him uchachi in self-knowledge!
Tatiana
Thank you Natasha! (F)(F)(F)
Viya
Saturn in the 12th house, what does it mean?
Zhukovich
Psychologically: You may have vague but persistent feelings of guilt and fear that are difficult to identify or eradicate. You seem to not trust life in general and are always looking for ways to protect yourself from its dangers and unknowns. You must learn to overcome your ingrained habits of discouragement and anxiety and see the world as something friendly, not treacherous.
(excerpt from the book). The rest needs to be looked at at home, aspects, etc.
larissa
(dt) girls, I felt so stupid, what is the 12th house and where can I see it?
Elena
I offer the details of a person who has been convicted multiple times (5 times) with a total prison experience of more than 20 years. But Dm No. 12 is empty. The ruler of the 12th in the 7th is in square with the Sun and that’s it. Maybe one of my colleagues will find more significant signs of such a fate. And so: man; Moscow; 05/23/1965; 11:23:58 (map rectified and reliable).
Zhukovich
Maria, she needs to move to another country, where these planets will enter other houses.
Otherwise, suffering, reluctance to work - this is the easiest thing, the 12th house makes you dream (analogous to Pisces), creates your own reality and a person, as if out of this world, simply does not fit into this system. In order for the 12th to be realized in a less traumatic way for the psyche, it is better to go abroad (the 12th will be lost as an adaptation in a foreign country), you can, of course, work in hospitals, care for seriously ill people, work in a prison or other isolated institutions, leave to the monastery. But if this entire list does not suit a person, then the 12th can be realized as simply suffering and loneliness. One of my clients with the 12th house suffers from the fact that her richest potential is not realized in society. With the 12th house there is often a marriage, but it is more formal than a person would like, it is as if in marriage and as would be lonely. Loneliness is the main word of the 12th house. You can have everything, causing the envy of others - but be lonely.
Zhukovich
Elena, the man’s card is interesting because it does not fit any theoretical rule for a prison. We need to look at the stars and degrees. Of course, in the first house the Mars-Uranus-Pluto stellium is in a tense tau square, the personality is conflictual, unable to obey the system, independent, domineering, oppressive.
Zhukovich
Elena, except for the degree Ms of the 17th Taurus, which is interpreted as prison, exile, captivity, as well as Saturn in the 17th Pisces - danger violent death or suicide secret enemies, - I didn’t find anything else.
Alexander
Natalie, my opinion is that the card was not rectified correctly!!
In this case, with a shift of 2 hours, we get the full 12th house, plus Jupiter in the 9th house. With such an arrangement of planets, the set is complete for such a fate, plus so many criminal records. Of course, I would like to see by what criteria the rectification was carried out??
Alexander
Question for you??
Or maybe you have a question??
Which I spent for myself several months ago, and only decided to write about it now. Its essence was to choose half of the unknown 10 cards that belonged to the actors, and another 5 to the killers. I know that almost none of the readers of the Astro-School blog wanted/could work. Almost everyone limited themselves to the two given in the last article. Of course, there is not enough time, or maybe the research spirit is rather weak or something else…. Be that as it may, I am publishing my findings.
The meaning of an astrological experiment
I'll start with a simple question: why was such an experiment needed at all? Why was it necessary to compare the horoscopes of murderers and actors? I explained my motivation last time: I was just curious if I could distinguish the first from the second. That is, I was driven by banal idle curiosity. But I was prompted to describe it here on the Astrological School website for completely different reasons:
Firstly, I wanted to show it in practice The astrologer is responsible for every word he utters. How many actors have you accused of murder? How many maniacs were “justified” by their conclusions? I’ll be honest about myself: I mixed up two cards. That is, she considered one person, a beautiful, young girl, a talented actress, a criminal, and a murderer, a talented actor. These are two destinies, two lives. This is a huge responsibility! And it is important to understand, accept and be able to bear it.
Secondly, I wanted to show that you shouldn’t count on good results in topics where you are incompetent. This is my story, because I am a complete zero on the topic of serial maniacs and murderers. I don’t know their psychology, the peculiarities of life, this is a completely incomprehensible matter for me, in which I am incompetent. Therefore, by and large, taking up such an analysis in real life I wouldn't be able to. Here it was a game, but in real life you shouldn’t take on topics you don’t understand. This is especially true for completely new astrologers, who, after reading a couple of books, for example, on medical astrology, begin to consider themselves specialists capable of providing quality advice. . This is not true; before becoming competent in a topic, you need to fully work through at least 100 natal charts on it. Just be mindful of your limits.
B-3, I wanted to show you how DO NOT carry out The fact remains: 99% of all astrological research is carried out with errors, which I already mentioned in the first part of the article. The same mistakes were made in this experiment. The main one is that the maps being studied have not been checked for radicality and have not been rectified. Therefore, there is no need to talk about the reliability of the judgment based on them and the correctness of the experiment. This is if you take the experiment seriously. If you indulge, you can even research dates of birth or sun signs, as we like to do. I will definitely return to the topic of astrological (serious) experiments.
The progress of the experiment “Horoscope of a killer or an actor?”
And now - to the results. If you are impatient, you can do it here (question cards, answer cards, exact birth data for each card).
For those who are patient, I will describe in part the road I followed, trying to distinguish the killers from the actors. I'm not saying it's true. You can find your own solutions to this problem, which will be completely different from mine, and there is nothing strange about that.
It's not about the astrological techniques we use, but about drawing the right conclusions.
Moreover, even now, after the end of the experiment, I will not be able to tell you the exact astrological signs of the killer that will appear in the chart everyone criminal. There are some individual indicative fragments of cards that, taken together, can point to the criminal. But common features, characteristic of all such horoscopes, I did not find. Perhaps you will find it. Just remember to conduct such an experiment-research more correctly than I did :)
So, we had 10 cards in front of us, each half of which should have similar characteristics.
The killer cards (all) were supposed to contain indications of the possibility of committing a serious crime and punishment, and of a certain fame from committing murders.
The actors' cards (all) had to contain indications of fame from public activity, from the stage.
Where did I start?
(Before reading, open the article - it will be very useful to you)
1) From Saturn in the 12th house:) Or, more precisely, from the fact that in the horoscope of murderers there should be formula of serious crimes (9-12) and at the same time Saturn must necessarily be related to it(this is discussed in S.V. Shestopalov’s book “Horoscope Analysis”, pp. 111, 293). This means that Saturn must be related to the 9th or 12th house and be involved in intense interactions between them. Also, in the charts of people whose sentences exceeded several years, Saturn must be related to the 12th house, that is, rule it, co-rule it, be in it, or intensely aspect an element of this house. That’s where I started: I selected cards that corresponded to this parameter. These turned out to be cards No. 1 (Saturn at 12), No. 2 (Saturn at 12), No. 3 (rules 12), No. 4 (square Saturn-ruler 12 Jupiter), No. 7 (Saturn rules 12). These five cards became my first "contenders" for the killer group.
Next, it was necessary to check the presence of a complete formula for serious offenses in the selected cards, that is, in addition to Saturn, it was necessary to have at least three intense interactions between the elements of the 9th and 12th houses. In simple words: you need to highlight the elements of the 9th house and the 12th house and determine whether there are tense connections between them.
Let's analyze map No. 1 together (the map is clickable - when clicked, it will open in a new window):
Elements of the 9th house: Uranus, Neptune, Jupiter retro.
Elements of the 12th house: Mercury, Saturn, Venus (Venus is in question, because it is practically on the Ascendant. And we cannot verify in any way which house it actually belongs to, therefore, according to the conditions of the experiment, we work with the data “how There is").
Tense interactions between the 9th and 12th houses:
The first is Uranus (9) square Venus (12);
Second - ... other planets do not have mutual tense aspects. There are no more connections. Most likely, this person could not break the law, so I put him aside with the inscription “Rather, A” (“Rather, Actor”) and continue to work.
Let's analyze map No. 2 from the previous article:
Elements of the 9th house: Mercury, Uranus, Moon.
Elements of the 12th house: Mercury, Saturn.
Intense interactions between the elements of the 9th and 12th houses:
The first is Saturn (12) square Uranus (9);
The second is the Moon (9) in opposition to Mercury (12);
The third is interaction through Mercury, which is simultaneously an element of 9 and 12. Such interaction through simultaneous belonging to two houses, just like a connection, can play out both “plus” and “minus”. In this case (in the context of the topic, taking into account the defeat and retrograde of Mercury, with the participation of the 12th “evil” house) this is a tense interaction. This horoscope has necessary conditions for a tendency to crime and the possibility of being thrown into prison for a long time: triple intense interaction between the 9th and 12th houses, Saturn is a participant in the formula and the element of the 12th house. Already at this stage of the analysis, we can classify this card as particularly suspicious - I simply marked it with the words “Rather, U” (this means “Rather, a killer”).
Of course, the presence even full version This formula in the radix does not automatically make a person a criminal and doomed to imprisonment, because other indicators of the map are of great importance, plus the level of spiritual development of a person, which can never be seen in the map!
The remaining charts in which Saturn was related to the 12th house were analyzed using the same principle. I will not give a complete analysis here; I think that using the examples you can easily do it yourself. Here I will show only the results (the card number and the number of tense connections between 9 and 12 are given):
At this stage, I received two clearly defined cards, which contained the full formula of offenses: No. 2 and No. 4, these were included in the “Rather, murderers” group. Remained in question, especially cards No. 7 and 3 (in No. 7 there is a very indicative stellium in the 8th house, and in No. 3, with a slight shift in time, the house accents shift and the card becomes eloquent)
2) Next I took for the 8th house(from this point I write shorter). The house of death and terrible transformations had to be clearly negatively manifested in the cards of the killers, and also be strong (that is, have many tense elements and/or tense Lilith). Of course, the strength of a house relative to other houses is measured quite accurately using one of the methods, I will definitely devote a place to it in the blog on Now I will say briefly: the number of connections of houses with other houses of the map is an indicator of its strength, the more connections, the more strong house. The simplest way to calculate: weak house - less than 20 connections; average house - 20-30 connections; strong house – from 30 connections. Affected house - at least half of the connections are negative or through a connection.
3) Next, I analyzed the presence in the cards connections between the 7th and 8th houses (the so-called formula of hatred). These are indications that a person may cause physical harm to another person or receive it from another. Killers should have such instructions Necessarily. In the actors' cards they can occur, such as, for example, indications of profit from other people, or the same assault, but in a more loyal form. That is why I classified this combination as an additional indication: if it is present with the support of other significant factors, it is in the direction of the killer.
4) Moon position in the chart: a person with the Moon ruling or standing in the 8th house, on a subconscious level, considers the situations of the 8th house normal and gravitates towards them. This is another additional indication of a possible killer.
5) tense ties between 1 and 8 houses– this is literally the danger of physical harm, as well as personal participation (1) in extreme situations, brush with death (8).
6) Predominance of tense aspects in the chart(heavy configurations - cross, tau square, stelliums without or with insufficient access to harmonious aspects). Gives a need for action, but great difficulties with its adequate implementation.
And so on. It makes no sense to describe everything that I thought about and looked at. These are the main and most significant points that I paid attention to when trying to distinguish the killer card from the actor card. By general conclusions, the prevailing negative aspects, according to personal subjective feelings, I divided the cards and... I was wrong twice.
I wonder how you handled this task and what conclusions you came to? Feel free to speak up in the comments.
Finally, answers to two cards from the previous article:
Card number 6 (left) belongs to the famous young actress Jessica Alba,
And card No. 2 (right) is serial killer Randy Woodfield (killed three people and is suspected of killing 44 more).